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Your 4 top pets (Most Used)

Discussion in 'UO Tamer' started by Tyrath, Aug 30, 2019.

  1. Tyrath

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    I think at the end of the say most of us come down to 2-4 pets that are our go to pets. And of course we all have our one favorite main pet. I am leaving Tritons out for now, I like them they are powerful....... they are uglier than my X wife :) I am not a fan of CUs, never have been, I keep a couple in the stables for some encounters but they just are not my thing. I have also put my top scrolled out CUs up against my Top scrolled out Lesser Hiryus and the Lessers dominate the CUs in every fight. (Just a straight pet brawl with no healing or consume running) LOL CUs IMO best use is for selling the rare color ones to folks with CU Color addictions :)

    For me..........

    #1 Blue Beetle running Poisoning, RC and AI. I rarely scroll them above 110s if at all. Even with just GM skills they chew through most of the content I do.

    #2 and a close second to the Blue Beetle is a Lesser Hiryu If doing boss type things (Whyvern Renowned for example) where the spawn stages leading up to the boss are all the same, I go with a Straight Chiv, AI heavy hitter with 120 scrolls. For mixed Mobs it is a Bushi/Goo again scrolled with at least 120 Parry and Bushi and often just 110s or 115s for other scrolled skills.

    #3 Reptalon running mystic or Spell weaving Not the right tool for every job. But a great tool for the right jobs.

    #4. Stygian Drakes with mage mastery. They despite having many short falls are heavy hitters and love to teleport to a target. I often use them hunting dread pirates as they teleport onto the pirate ship before the first cannon is fired and have cleared the orc crew and have the Dread pirate half or more down by the time the ship is scuttled. I also found they teleport onto the plunder beacons and kill the crew much faster than my sampire archer or mystics can and then as a bonus they kill the lighthouse as well. LOL those beacons that keep firing after the crew is dead...... No problem at all with a Stygian drake that teleports on to it and can hit the beacon hard. Averages about 10-12 minutes to kill everything start to finish. If it gets in trouble just pet ball it back to you heal it up and get back in range and they teleport right back. I don't scroll them at all and put the points that would be used for scrolls into HP. Kind of a limited use pet for most folks but like the Reptalon the right tool for many of my jobs.

    A 5th honorable mention for farming several mobs is the Ossien Ram with Necro and life leech. A bit weaker pet but not a glass cannon like most of the necro pets. Enough HP to stay in a fight and at 120 Necro/SS and their love of casting wither they can clear annoying mobs fast. And stay alive with the LL fairly well. They also make a decent single target pet if you just leave them as they come with the battle defense. Just don't use them or any pet that disarms on Dread Pirates or Medusa ;)

    SO what are your most used Four and a Honorable Mention?
     
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    My list:

    1. The basic RC/AI/Poison blue beetle, found in both my tamers' stables (one is a TH/Tamer, the other a bard/tamer). One of them also has Mortal as well, due to use with a group of friends where we fight mobs that tend to spam heal. I'm usually using it as the sole pet with Physical damage primary at the Roof, while the others are using a cu, fire beetle (or steed), or one of the poison dinos. And, of course, this means that I usually haul nearly 300k gold from the roof per trip.
    2. My Disco Cu. The pet having disco means you don't have to stay visible to keep the target discoed, the pet will. This leaves me able to concentrate on using provo (or peace, if I take the time to swap out my disco)
    3. A Fire Beetle, for when my Roof group takes returning players who haven't made new pets yet, and end up having to default to their old GD or FD. Skilled and scrolled like the blue beetles.
    4. When I was doing the Eodon Dragon Turtle more often, my 4-slot dragon turtle hatchling I trained to 5 slots. With the training, it's a great alternative to GD for situations where you don't need a flyer.
    Honorable Mention: Non-trained Frost Dragon, 5-slot Cold Drake (Chiv) and 4-slot Frost Drake. One of these is typically what I take to Belfry. And, on the off chance no one is taking cus to roof, I'll pull it out (one of the other players usually takes her fire beetle or cu).
     
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    1. Lesser Hiryu with Chiv and AI. He’s midnight colored and my only full 120’s pet. I use him for most encounters with single target damage.

    2. Myst/AI Cu. I use him for any type of content where physical or fire resists are high or content with multiples targets, such as champ spawns and Roof.

    3. Fire and blue beetle. Both have identical builds. They both run RC, poison, and AI. I use them on my archer Tamer because RC and max damage with my bow is something magical.

    4. PP mare. I left magery and added AI. I use this if there’s multiple mobs and lower fire resists. I like the look of this mount the best (besides my Dread which is poorly trained) so I’ll use him for random dungeon activities.

    5. Fire steed with AI and Chiv. These are great against content that’s very weak to fire resists. They’re cheap to build with scrolls so I have one on all of my tamers.

    My next pet that I’m going to train is a FWW/position Naja for champ spawns and void pool. I just trained a Naja with AI and poison breath but I might scrap it.

    I also have a handful of PP mares bonded in the staples with the hope that they let us remove Dragon Breath at some point...
     
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  4. Tyrath

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    I never really understood why mares have Dragon Breath to start with. Made no sense to me way back when and makes even less sense now days.
     
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    Interesting thought and results. Most frequently utilized pets:

    1. Giant Beetle ... Basic 1-Slot
    2. Cu Sidhe ....... AI/Disco
    3. Najasaurus ..... FWW/PB/Poison
    4. Fire Steed ..... AI/Chiv
    HM Lowland Boura .. Basic 2-Slot

    Currently re-examining Rune Beetle, Stygian Drake, and Unicorn.
     
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    Unicorns are great if you find them at the upper end of the stats and are comparable to a 2 slot Mare minus the Dragon breath. Stygian Drakes have very limited options and are one of those pets where the less you add to it or change on it the more you get from it. THey are never going to hang with the big ballers in the taming realm but they do have a few uses that they are the best pet to pick. Kind of like reptalons, not the best all around pet but a powerhouse in some circumstances....... lol particularly if you have 3-4 folks with reptalons hitting paralyze regularly. Unless they made some changes while I was away........ there were a couple of the bosses that 3-4 reptalons could literally keep basically perma paralyzed until dead.... Simply because they seem to like to hit Paralyze A LOT........ which somethings are far more vulnerable to than others.
     
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  7. Planters

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    I love these ideas. Now to get me one of each of them and find which ones I like more


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    1, Fire Beetle with RC+AI. I usually hunt in a group, so the RC is just too useful for us to pass up on.
    2. Najasaurus with FWW+Poison Breath. Highest AoE pet in the game, and is fairly tanky to boot.
    3. Crimson/Platinum Drakes with 120 Chiv+AI. When specifically hunting a single type of creature/boss, i choose whichever Drake does 100% damage in their weakest Resist.
    4. Triton with Chiv+AI. Excellent single target damage due to heavy use of AI, and is really tanky as well.
    My Disco/Tamer uses a Chiv+AI Triton. My 6x120 Tamer/Mage uses a Disco+Conductive Blast Triton to combine with his Death Ray for massive Death Ray ticks.
     
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    1. Ai/chiv bane dragon, My favorite pet to use as the combos just increase the already effective burst of chiv.. the Blast of damage followed poisoning putting mobs in defensive ui is just awonder to behold. Going to end this part here as talking up truly good pet normally end with a nerf to said pet.. but there are a lot of other reasons this is my favorite pet too.(has to do with the passive). ^_~

    2. Exp goo, AI, magery Bane dragon, I mostly use this one for becons and spawns I wish to clear quickly as the banes passive when mixed with exp goo just melts areas in record time.(plus nice to have non chiv pet for daemon /reflect spawns)
    3.Ai/chiv hiryu I use this one a lot at EM events to lower the attack of the super mobs and boss at the end.. as well as the phy RS..
    4. Tied for 4th ai,rc, poison beetle / exp goo , ai , Rc, poison fire beetle.. I will use these for group hunts or EM events if no one else has brought the RC debuff ,as it just makes the fights worlds faster meaning less chance of pet /player death and having to reskill after events...
    The HM pet would be my Ai,RC,FWW,poison G. beetle … even though he got hit by the tasty treat bug and is now stuck at 143 stam..(don't log out if a pet has any duration left on tasty treat or this can happen to you)

    There are others I enjoy as well.. but I would say these are my top 5 used in the last few months not counting training .. The above pets are all 120ed out for min maxing/ max damage testing of their types early on...I love hearing about players having fun with their pets...keep them coming all..and. have a wonderful evening everyone.. =^-^=
     
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  10. celticus

    celticus Babbling Loonie

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    Good to see you posting Don. By the way what does HM stand for? Thanks.
     
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    Good morning Celticus, as summer is starting to die down the months between it and winter normally see me a bit stronger and on more.. its good to see you on as well.. I hope you have been enjoying the new content.. HM is just short for honorable mention.. I've been messing around with some of my flavor pets the last few week.. and enjoying trying the tritons out..here is a pic of my Ai chiv one.. also tried a fully 120ed Exp goo, AI, WWA(comes with bush), bush triton.. I was hopeing that with their increase swing speed it might fix the lowered rate of lighten strike that happened when they normalized/capped swing speed a year or so back sadly this was not the case.. its a lot more tanky then the chiv ai one.. and it can land some pretty impressive lighten strike hits.. just not at the volume to make it a viable choice over the chiv ai on.. was hopeing for a double aoe spawn clearing boss slayer.. wish the wwa was as effective as fww..sadly not the case.. but am pleased with the one weakness of most bush specs being addressed in this pet which was the lack of a heal... I can't see using either of these at high pop events like EM events though.. as they would constantly get stuck behind player walls and bottle necks.. and unliked mount pets which you can just mount take into the masses and unmount to get it on the bosses...these you can only do that with by getting beside the boss and logging out and back on..... while they are great soloing and group pet.. I cant see using them often at em events....but that's just my view on that matter.. as event vary as do locations and many ems love wide open spaces.... hehe.. Hope you have a delightful evening =^-~=
     

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  12. railshot

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    I prefer not list my most used pets so as to not give ideas to Devs as to what to nerf next. But I can say what I don't use. I rarely use a Triton. Extra 9 points of wrestling compared to it's competitors is not an adequate compensation for it being non-rideable and having a lousy damage types.
    I also mostly stopped using AoE pets (goo, etc). It does not do enough damage to kill quickly and serves just to aggro everything onto the pet. At which point you spend all your mana keeping it alive. When AoE is needed, it seems more efficient to use single target pet (for the boss) and kill the spawn with the tamer (Necro or SW AoE).
     
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  13. MalagAste

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    I think my Unicorn is my favorite... I gave the one Magery Mastery, AI and I think Mortal... It's awesome... plus it NEVER gets poisoned... which makes it really nice at the Turtle champ... never have to worry about it if I'm on my one tamer she goes into stone form and my unicorn is immune to poison so it's a cake walk.

    I have a nice platinum drake that has mysticism... I like that one too...

    But mostly go to is a Chivy/AI Cu if I'm doing a single boss or something... Otherwise I also have a very nice tank of a Lesser Hiryu with FWW and Whirlwind on it... I can't recall what all it has but it's a pretty decent semi-Samp... sadly it doesn't life leech or mana leech but it really is a nice pet for clearing mobs... I take him to the roof on occasion and he does pretty good at dealing with all the small spawn stuffs the bosses put out.
     
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    Thanks Don, this is useful info. I have also a Triton, that I put AI, and poisoning on, healing is at 115, wrestling is at 129.5, poisoning at 100. I was planning on poison breath as AoE, and Chiv. Was planning on Chiv/AI, poison breath VS FzWW and AI. Not sure what to do. I suspect the Poison and poison AoE was a mistake. Was going for a similar spec to Bane dragon with its AoE plus the Chiv/Ai, but with healing on the Triton. I suspect that the Chiv/AI would be better than the FzWW AI PB, since the swing speed nerf.
     
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    Why would you scrap the FzWW/AI/PB Naja? Sounds ideal for spawns. Is it the AI that would take a lot of mana to maintain? Would you just prefer the FzWW/Pbreath one better? Thanks for info..
     
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    That is exactly why I put Goo on my Bushi Hiryus and Lessers :) Along with a 120 Bushi and Parry scroll. The Parry bonus with Bushi goes a long way in the damage reduction department and the whirl winds they are aggro into is pretty hard on mid to low end mobs. Where a Chiv/AI pet would get shredded and you really would not want mixed mobs aggro on the pet, AOE is not generally a great idea.

    The Triton has been a great addition to my Garg T Hunter where mounted means nothing. 120 tame 120 lore 100 Cart 100LP 90 Disco 90 Music (Jewels to 120) 50 mage (Jewel to 80) and 50RT (If They change it so my RT trick doesn't work I will probably up that and drop mage to 60 jeweled but as is I rarely get more than 2 ancient guardians) Running 810 skill total with jewels. In this case and very tight template the Triton is a GREAT pet. It might just be me but it sure seems like the Tritons sling bandages sling bandages about 1.5 - 2X faster than the other healing pets and my weak magery and greater heals make up where they fall short. They do very well taking out the bulk of the chest spawn and really only struggle with the Frost Dragons, and that is due to me going cheap on the cold resist. That one is a CHiv AI build with FWW and beats the GD, DRagon Snail Hatchling, and Rune Beetle I used to use. And the Gargs Disco goes a long way to making the tougher critters like the Frost Dragons a lot more manageable. AWs and GDs that spawn..... The Triton chews right through them. After the Chest is open and everything worth taking to unravel is in a box on the ground, I switch the triton out for a beetle to haul the loot to the house stone lore add imbue unravel the junk and put lore back on and repeat on the next map. So for this case the Triton is the best get in there and brawl pet for me. And while ugly........ They are not as UGLY as the Dragon Snail Hatchlings :) and take up a much smaller foot print than a GD.
     
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    1. Phoenix magery mastery, inferno, goo not exactly the best pet for any particular situation but I enjoy using him so much
    2. Frost mite poison rc 100% cold damage is nice a lot of enemies tend to have lower cold resist to start with
    3. Crimson Drake (poison variety) poison, poison breath great fun for doing the zippy push just everything puking around him named em (Plague Weaver)
    4. Reptalon spellweaving good for getting big hits occasionally and I just enjoy the way they look in the classic client
     
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    Love all the suggestions here! Thanks for sharing!

    For bonus points - could you list the quick build on these so if someone were to replicate?

    IE

    Blue Beetle - Stats - Str/Int/Dex, Skills (cap) ex Chivalry (110), Wrestle (120) etc, Regens 10/20/30 (Example)

    Then the training plan roughly :
    Level 1 -2 : Resists, skills and add AI
    Level 2-3: Add chivalry, regens
    Level 3-4 : etc.

    I realize every pet starts with some different stats and you will never exactly replicate but I think people get hung up with how to build and which skills to overcap/scroll, when to add the moves and magery and what order etc. I'd love to build a few of these but don't want to spend a couple weeks and scrolls and mess one up.

    Thanks all!
     
  19. Tyrath

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    No CHiv on Blue Beetles :) I run a pretty standard build on them. Here is one I am working on now and need to spend some time with a shadow el to finish up. I have scrolled them up and in the case of blue beetles find the investment of anything more than than 110s to have marginal benefits at best. My T Hunter runs one that easily takes down AWs and Frost Dragons (That one has 80 cold resist and 45 Poison resist just for the frost Dragon Factor) It has no scrolls and is just flat 100s across the board. The T Chest Beetle stays alive and fighting just dropping greater heals from a distance. The T hunters Secondary Blue Beetle is just 100 skills as well but has 45 cold and 80 poison resist, I use that one to farm miasma and maps. I do need to heal him up about every 5th-6th Miasma.

    Here is the new one I am building on GL. Since I have been back I have been hammering the high seas pretty hard and this ones service has thus far been killing dread pirates and packing loot off of merch ships. His primary service is acting as a meat shield to aggro the beacon orcs while my 3 mystics drop RCs on the beacons, He has never dropped below 75% health on a beacon without vetting or greater healing him.

    You will have to choose between 150 stam/dex and 700 Str Personally I will take the dex/stam and the 678 str. (That is due to the 500 Int.)

    Blue beetles pretty much start out with identical stats across the board so in their case you can make identical clones. Anyway here is my pretty much standard Blue Beetle build.

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    My 4 most used pets...

    All are 120'ed where applicable

    Fire Steed - Primarily on my T-Hunter with Chiv, AI and default dragon breath.
    Nightmare - My preferred pet for anything other than T-Hunting, again Chiv, AI and dragon breath.
    Platinum drake - 100% Poison with Chiv, AI and dragon breath. I use this solely for Zipactriotl, when I do it, and nothing else as yet.
    Frost Drake - Currently only has AI, not committed to other abilities due to lack of cold targets, I use this primarily for Trove Ter Mur maps which generally consist of fire daemons and the like, AI spam does the trick.

    You may ask, why no AoE pets? I would never do a champ with a pet so I don't bother, and from my experience AoE pets during events tend to attract more attention and die quickly.

    No screenies because everyone knows what a pet stat page looks like.
     
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    100% Poison Crimson/Platinum Drakes with 120 Chiv+AI are also pretty good at killing the Monstrous Interred Grizzle in Bedlam. He's weakest to Poison damage, is a single target fight so EoO has no downsides during it, and the +SSI from Divine Fury helps counteract the -SSI debuff from Howl of Cacophany. An Archer running "Play the Odds" for +30% SSI on all pets/party members near him also helps counteract the Howl of Cacophany.
     
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    An AoO Bushi Goo pet can be very effective at champs particularly if you are running a hybrid dexxer tamer instead of the usual mage tamer. Putting AoO on a Chiv pet in most cases makes zero sense. Putting a AoO on any pet other than a Bushi pet does not make much sense....... with a very few exceptions for specific spawns, where Chiv and AoO are a effective combo. You will find most tamers look at the power of the pet and how their character template can support the pet instead of looking at the pet and how the pets template can best support the character template. A tamer with weapon skill, tactics, bushi and necro or chiv will out do the Tame, lore, vet, mage, med, eval or the tamer, mage, stealth templates every time in PvM. But there is something to be said for being lazy and sitting back well away from the fight and running consume..... Just not much to be said about the damage output of the pet alone :)
     
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    When the changes first came out I made a Dread Spider that was awesome with Goo and I can't recall what else but then they nerfed it and now the poor spider never gets much attention anymore .
     
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    About the only thing they are good for now is making them necro and using them to train resisting spell on Siege :)
     
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    Actually, a 6xLegendary Tamer/Mage can out damage a Dexxer/Tamer with my patented Disco+CB Triton+Death Ray combo. Some truly jaw dropping damage numbers with it, especially if the opponent has a Lesser Slayer vulnerability. Like a high end WoD going off every 3 secs at any health %, while debuffing the hell out of the opponent's Energy Resist for everyone else to deal more damage as well.
     
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    Its all in what you do with the tools in yer belt :) Most people go for the hammer and forget they have other options that would be more effective.
     
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    That is very true.

    Going to have to disagree here, especially if a mob is slayer vulnerable.

    There are ways to even improve on that.

    I rarely see tamers that use their pets for their damage output use the pets to the best of their ability. Many people generally chose the path of least resistance or laziness, hence why CU are so popular.
     
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    I use my chiv/AI PP WW for bosses and sometimes for spawns.

    I’ve got a fzww/AI naja I use for spawns.

    My rune beetle is for helping with beacons. It’s just scrolled with innate magery and poisoning.

    Gonna train a reptalon next.
     
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    "Many people generally chose the path of least resistance or laziness, hence why CU are so popular."

    Personally, I like great Dragons as pets, and feel sad we cannot "train" or specialize them without really really unbalance taming.
    BUT...
    Its pretty hard to deny Cu's abilities and perks, in spite of bleed, split damage, etc. Players use them for many reasons, including but not limited to:
    -RIDEABILITY that can be a massive plus, in many situations, esp. rough terrain and large mobs, and also deadly mobs you need to move through quickly. Speed of movement overall as well.
    -Awesome sustainability, due to healing and specs. I agree with consume you can have a Greater Chicken tackle GDs etc, but with certain mobs a self healing pet is a plus.
    -Relatively easy entry for a super high power pet to new tamers, easily available also.
    -Colors that are decent. Including rare and super rare color.
    -They look like our most beloved pet in RL, the one lots of us grew up with.
    -Have not done that but I suspect hat if you put a Skilled and 120 Scrolled and trained CU together, and a similarly skilled speced and scrolled other RIDEABLE pet 1x1, without tamer intervention what would happen : Cu would likely win, including over banes, and dreadmares that are identical specs and 120 scrolls.
    I doubt that Cus are too shabby. So it is not just laziness, to which I also personally admit, but one ton of other things ALSO.:)
     
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    The Lesser Hiryu would spank the CU :)
     
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    Probably due to the claw debuff and damage, but no healing on lesser unless confidence is able to compensate for this, but we mean identically scrolled and skilled-trained pets.
     
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    Take your pick the Full Hiryu Metallic Warbird or the Lesser Sparfucil. I put them against my best scrolled Cu's with no intervention from either of my tamers all 4 Cus were higher end and fully scrolled Metallic warbird was at 50% health going against a Weaver CU. the mystic,CHiv and mage CUs didn't get him under half health before they went grey. The the Weaver CU faired a little better against sparfucil and had him down to 18% health when the Weaver Cu Died. Did 3 fights with each against the Weaver CU. It really comes down to grasping claw and the larger HP spread between a high end Hiryu and a High End CU. There is not much in game that a top of the line Full Hiryu or a Lesser can't destroy. Bushi/Parry is like a huge automatic damage reduction can remember the exact % off the top of my head but it is considerable at 120/120. To be fair Metallic Warbird is the absolute best Hiryu stat wise that can be tamed and the color was just a bonus.

    The CHiv Cu's advancements look just like SParfucils other than it has 120 tactics and a 120 med scroll. Stats are never going to be identical between a Hiryu and a CU The CU is just inferior in stats to start with. CUs (Being insulting to CUs that is how they come). Why the CU failed so hard against Warbird is once he blew through his 500 mana he was effectively out of the fight and the AI had to choose between healing or Armor Ignore, or which ever Chic spell........ which was not often healing. That got warbird down to around 650 hp and he only lost another 150 the remainder of the fight. Even when warbird is out of mana he is still blocking a good percentage of the CUs attacks. CUs are good pets and for whatever strange reason people love them. But 99 times out of 100 if yer using a CU there is another pet that could do the same job better :)

    I keep a full stable of high end scrolled out Hiryus and Lessers on Origin if you would ever like to put CUs up against them and see for yerself :) Other shards I have mostly

    MEtalic Warbird1.png MEtalic Warbird2.png sparfucil1.png sparfucil2.png

    The CU that did the best against Sparfucil and Warbird was a bit of a shock. I thought it would be the Chiv Cu. But the Weaver did the most damage to both before dying, with the Chiv Cu a close second. Must have been because he is a PERVert.

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    Yeah, one of my guildies has a 3 slot Triton with Disco+CB, and he has a 2 slot Fire Beetle with Rune Corruption. Pretty disgusting damage he puts out with Death Ray. He substituted Med for Necro/SS, and is able to leech back enough Mana to sustain Death Ray indefinitely against most foes.

    A Bane Dragon would DP a Cu every time the Cu hit him, therefore nullifying the Cu's Healing advantage.
     
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    Very nice info, greatly appreciated.
     
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    I use a former 2 slot Reptalon against most mobs. It has chiv/AI as specials and all skills maxed to 120. It ended up with 835 hp and 870 mana and hpr20/mr30/sr5 and str700 and Resists 80/80/65/65/75. Very, very tough pet.
    Sometimes I use my lesser hiryu against spawns. It has Bushido and FWW as specials. Very nice too.
    Well, if I want to have fun while watching my pet fighting, I use my nightmare with necromage/AI specials on it. :)
     
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    I assume they are running Taming, Lore, Magery, Eval, Necro, and SS? And they leech enough for the deathrays and heals for the pets?
     
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    Taming/Lore/Vet/Magery/Eval, and like 20 Necro/80 SS. He has Jewelry with +Necro on it that he uses for getting into Wraith Form easily.
     
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    Hrm. While I tend to obsess over Crimson Drakes, and anything with healing...my most used.... I'd have to say

    Bushido/FWW Lesser

    Poison Crimson Drake with Poison, AI, and Mortal. (cause I can't help myself: another Crimson P with SW and AI)

    Dread Spider with Necromage

    and last but not least (by a long shot, he's huge) A Triceratops with Poison, Venomous Bite, AI and Healing.

    Honorable Mentions to my Necro Tsuki Wolf, Shadow Wyrm, Red Cu, and Discord Energy Crimson.

    The reason there's no WW on this list is I borked a Pre Patch and I havent had the heart to look at any of them since.

    Mounting is a non-issue for me now, but before I had the operation I greatly enjoyed Nightmares as my mount/5 slot pet. Stock magery, MM, Necromage/AI , or Chiv AI.
     
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    Hello Tyrath, could you please tell me wich monsters u can kill with your Blue Beetle that has 110 on skills? Im very interesting in scrolling my beetle with 110-115 scrolls since I don't have all the 120s on Siege...

    Did you already take this pet to the roof?
     
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    What is everyone using on boats to kill plunder beacons and captains? I figured a mage skill pet would work best, but I've only ever used chiv/ai. I was thinking a pp nightmare or dread with maxed out skills and maybe add AI, but I want to get some input before I commit.

    @Donavon @Khaelor and anyone else who wants to share their thoughts...
     
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    Pretty much everything and yes they are very effective on the roof but not as a stand alone pet. Think of blue beetles as the all around everything pet. There is a lot they can solo and a lot they can't but even what they can't solo they are great to have in a group because of the Rune Corruption and they dish out a respectable amount of damage. Draw back to them as with most pets, they are not for the lazy tamer due no healing ability, so you need to keep them healed up and run consume where it is effective. Any pet is as or more powerful than the average old Greater Dragon even at GM skills now days. The Blue Beetle stands out because of its pack and the Rune Corruption. I run Trove maps with one and it knocks Frost Dragons out fairly quick with nothing but dropping greater heals on it, at 100 skills. But that particular one I went weak on Poison resist and 80 on Cold Resist.

    Mage pets are one of the slower ways to kill Dread Pirates and Beacon Crews. Beacons are best done with a Mystic/Archer if you want to knock them out fast. 120/120 Mystic/Focus RCs rip through the beacon crews. Any Beetle with Rune Corruption and Chiv/AI Lesser hiryu or Hiryu on a second acct destroy the Dread Pirates FAST. Can get the Mage Mastery pets to teleport onto the beacons but it is still relatively slow as they try to find the teleport spots. Death Ray can be effective but is out of range so the time you spend manuevering the boat to range a RC or two would already have 3 dead and working on the 4th. The Best use for a pet on the beacons is a meat shield taking the damage so your mytsic(s) can cast. Spamming bombard with 75+ SDI and fcr/fc jewels does an impressive amount of DPS on the orc crews. Sorry but the beacons are just not an area where pets are the most effective tool in the box :)
     
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    Thanks a lot for the input, I definitely made my mind now :)
     
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    Thanks. I do it with a group so I'm not too concerned with pet max damage. This account doesn't have an archer, thrower, or mystic so that's out. But my tamer is a mage with high SDI so I was thinking about pets casting along with me. We scuttle ships, so getting my pet to kill captains isn't really an issue. Just the beacons and crews damage is lacking.
     
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    Mage with high SDI will work, I have not tried this silver tincture reward slayer juice yet. That might or might not give mages a big boost. First several beacons I did with a Mage Mastery Stygian Drake with high HP and very high str. It killed the crews and even the light houses but would take 15-30 minutes each depending on how well it teleported and that was on a tame with no eval so best spell was mind blast. LOL can also animate the dead crew if you have necro, they don't last long once targeted but they speed things up a little bit.


    Beetles with rune corruption should be a part of every group. No matter which flavor of beetle they are the ultimate support pet in game. That corruption shaves probably 25%-30% off of every fight.
     
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    1. Super greater dragon
    2. Skree with magery mastery
    3. Trained cu skidee
    uh, I don't have a fourth. That was going to be a trained triton, but I didn't do that because of the huge disadvantages of tritons.
     
  46. Pawain

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    I use what best fits what I want to kill or one of my White Cus. Cause they kill everything.

    We have done scores of Scalis recently. I quickly cycled through pets then tried my base AI/PB/Chiv Triton. It is the only type pet I take now. I run Gift of Renewal on it. When I remember. Thats it.
    I see bodies of the Banes, Cus, Beetles, Hiryus on the dock. I can get points healing everyone while my pet ticks off damage. While they are running consume and trying to keep their pet alive. A NOOB can help at Grizzle with a Triton as long as they dont let it stand in the acid.

    They have such a bulky build anybody should be able to learn how to make them a killing machine.
     
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    I must be missing something....... What are the Triton's huge disadvantages? The only disadvantage I see is you can't ride them. Well there is the cosmetic disadvantage........ like they are uglier than dragon turtle hatchlings but that has no bearing of their efficacy.
     
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    On another note, still about Bue Beetles, can anyone with experience with them can please tell whether it is possible to train Blue Beetles at least a bit BUT, without the character riding them needing any Taming skills to then have to control them ?

    I am trying to figure out, whether it is possible to train up a little bit a Blue Miner for a Tamer or Lumberjacker to then bring along and be able to at least fight small spawn or, perhaps, even be able to use them for Stash and Supply Treasure Maps to fight the spawn without dieing to it.... and this, with ZERO Taming skills as necessary....

    Does anyone know if this is possible and up to what training for that Blue Beetle ?

    Thanks !
     
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    Being a non rideable one is a pretty big one. I have a number of fully trained and fully scrolled non-rideable pets, and with exception of one specifically made for one boss, all of them stay in stables. It's not just convenience. It also affects practical DPS, but that's a conversation for another day.
    Split damage and the damage types are also rather lame.
    And the fact that they go poof if they go wild, while there is a bug/mechanic that causes pets to go wild without tamers realizing it does not help.

    Back in the day tamers had an incentive to spend years looking for a perfect GD because once they got it, it would be their go to hunting pet. Tritons have a couple of major ways they are inferior to previously existing pets assures that they will not be used a whole lot long term.

    Oh and being a green lava elemental does not help :D
     
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    No you can't train them without the taming requirement rising every step of the way.