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Guild Rank Questions....

Discussion in 'UHall' started by PinkPandora, Apr 9, 2018.

  1. PinkPandora

    PinkPandora Rares Fest Host | LS April 2011
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    I have recently noticed this posting: Guild - UOGuide, the Ultima Online Encyclopedia

    It has a nice chart about the different ranks of guild members...
    First question is... Why can't the Warlord status do everything the Emissary can do? Can someone explain the logic for this please?

    Other question: if a guild leader is MIA, how can you get another guild leader? Someone mentioned that the Warlord automatically gets guild leader status if the original guild leader quits; is this true?

    Other question: ....but if the regular guild leader is only MIA vs. no longer a member.... how do we get an active guild leader?

    thanks for the insight folks :)
     
  2. ShriNayne

    ShriNayne Slightly Crazed

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    I don't think that always works as they intended, two years ago when my husband and I came back we had a bit of a problem when he was deleting a character that we forgot was the Guild Leader, one of my sister's characters was promoted to Leader by the game mechanics and at that point she hadn't played UO for 5 years! It totally ignored our other 10 characters which had all been logged in during the previous few weeks.
     
  3. PinkPandora

    PinkPandora Rares Fest Host | LS April 2011
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    thanks for the feedback....
    i still have the question in my head... Why can't the Warlord status do everything the Emissary can do? Can someone explain the logic for this please?
     
  4. Poo

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    there is also a bit of randomness to the system as @Tina Small can attest to, as a couple times a random character will get the Guild Leader for what seems like no reason at all.
    as with most stuff in UO there are gremlins in the machine!
     
  5. Captn Norrington

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    It was supposed to be a way to prevent the warlord from adding more fighters in the middle of a battle. If the guild war is going on and each side has a fair fight of 10 people each, but then the warlord suddenly adds 20 more previously non-guilded people or alternate characters to the guild in the middle of the fight it was considered an unfair tactic to use against the other side.

    It was also intended to be a "separation of powers" type of thing. The warlord is technically the 2nd in command of the guild because it's the next highest rank under guildmaster. So if the warlord could both declare war and recruit people, he would have exactly the same powers as the actual guildmaster, thereby making him a second guildmaster. By removing the warlord's ability to recruit and the emissary's ability to declare war, the power of the guildmaster rank is preserved since they are the only one that can do both.
     
  6. PinkPandora

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    ok, Captn, that actually makes my logic brain happy! thank you for sharing that insight. I couldn't figure it out on my own.
     
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    I always thought it was his dashing good looks, who knew
     
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