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Cu Sidhe Builds

Discussion in 'UO Tamer' started by Pawain, Dec 27, 2017.

  1. Lord Frodo

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    @Pawain are there any builds you can think of without scrolls or maybe just using the Combat type scrolls at say 110 One thing that bugs me is what does a fresh tamed Cu use mana for
     
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    Healing. Bleed.
     
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  3. Pawain

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    Oh ya all pets work fine with 110 combat scrolls. It is better to have a magic and better at 120.

    This Cu has AI/Poison and 110 scrolls
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    Its kills stuff.

    Real Bushido pets and beetles that cant get a magic are the only things that don't use mana quickly.
     
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  4. ngallor

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    thank you so much Pawain! very useful guide!
     
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  5. Calla Lily

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    Help, please. I did most of my training (taming/lore/vet) many years ago. I have a pre-patch cu Sidhe. I’m at 120 taming, 120 lore, and 120.0 vet (finally!) But I have not used the new pet training system and don’t have a clue what I’m doing. If someone could help me figure out the first three things I need to work on, I’d really appreciate it.

    Here’s my cu:

    Hits 513
    Stam 125
    Mana 280

    Str 603
    Dex 125
    Int 280

    Barding difficulty 102.2 ( or 112.2, not sure)

    Slots 4

    Physical 64
    Fire 45
    Cold 73
    Poison 31
    Energy 75

    Damage:
    Cold 50
    Energy 50
    Base damage 21-28

    Wrestling 100.0
    Tactics 100.0
    Resist 75.6
    Anatomy 100.0
    Healing 78.9
    Detect hidden 67.2
    Parry 96.8
    Med 100.0
    Focus 100.0

    I’d like to add Chivalry, but I have no clue what else to add or in what order. I probably need power scrolls, but which ones?

    Also, can someone tell me why my Cu sometimes gets confused? Is he trying to use a skill he doesn’t have? I feel like I’m the one who should be walking around with the *is confused* sign over my head!

    I know I’m just practicing on this one, but I’d like to get a handle on the training system before I start working any of my other pets.

    Help, please
     
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  6. celticus

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    Calla do not put any scrolls on this Cu, especially if it is 4 slot. (Frankly I would release unless Blaze, or special memories one).
    I would try to get a Cu with better stats : initial hit points at least 550-580, optimal 590-600, but a little difficult to find, and try to get cold and energy resists in the low side of 70's. The reason for this is the "cost" in imbuing points with the new system.
    What shard you on?
    If on ATL will gwt you a few Cus to get a taste of the new system. Do not scroll anything yet, esp 120's or you will regret it. Playing with a Cu at skills of 100 is perfectly fine. Later you can upgrade it with scrolls etc.

    ---> Also : If you just came back : Do not touch them yet if you have any of these Legacy Pets: Dread Horse (or Dreadmare, same), Bane dragon, OLD prepatch Nightmares, OLD prepatch White Wyrms, OLD Bake-Kitsune. These are now extremely valuable and they lose ALL their value if you mess them up or train them in useless specs or ways. Get more experience with training pets before you touch these. <---

    Work with the new Cus, Lesser Hiryus are also awesome, train a blue Beetle or Fire Beetle to 5 slots, you may be surprised what these can do when trained. Or tame and train a variety of other creatures.
    Welcome back and welcome to taming! :)
     
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  7. Pawain

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    @Calla Lily That Cu has some really low stats and is 4 slot. A fresh tame will be 3 slots. The resists are nice. Somebody returned on LS today there were four 4 slot Cus released in Luna.

    Get a new one and you can follow this guide for the first round of training.
    Choosing points for a Cu slot 3 to 4. 1st points allocation

    Then come back and show us what you made at that point. You can add you abilities and scrolls on the last round of training.
     
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  8. Calla Lily

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    Thank you for the tips! I might hang on to this Cu just because he was my first, and he's pretty (pink.) I'm on Chessy. I have a dread war horse and two Legacy nightmares and a couple of dragons. I don't have a fire beetle yet, that might be fun. Thanks for the welcome back :)
     
  9. Calla Lily

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    Thank you for the link!
     
  10. Calla Lily

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    Is the goal to have a lower slot pet or a higher slot pet? The lower slot will enable me to use two pets at once?
     
  11. The Doctor

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    The goal is to have the lowest slot possible for the type of pet. Which would allow for more training points to be applied to the pet when you get it to max level. That would be a 3 slot for Cu taken to five slot. A max level pet will out perform any combo of pets that are available because of the damage output of a chiv ai pet on single targets. You could also get the trition which is a healing pet that comes in statue form , part of the new content, which sells on vendor search for less that 15 million usually. I have an easier time keeping it alive because it seems to heal more without having the bleed effect of a cu. It instantly bonds which is a plus the only downside is that you can not mount it. The giant and fire beetles make excellent pets as well and armor corruption is always a boon while group hunting. I scroll pets on the cheap and they do just a well. 115 wrestle, always 120 the magic skill, and 105 or 110 scrolls on rest of skills. Sometimes leave them gm with points left over to put scrolls on later once max level. The most effective pet is one that does damage to your targets lowest resist and you can set resist on specific pets at 80 in the areas bosses hit in. I have a custom triton for Osiredon the Scalis Enforcer Osiredon the Scalis Enforcer - UOGuide, the Ultima Online Encyclopedia. with 80 in the resist areas he does the most damage. Specific pets for certain encounters are wonderful. Play however you like, it is your dime, and have fun.
     
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    @The Doctor

    What type of Stats and Training did you get your custom Triton to in order to make it more effective against Osiredon the Scalis Enforcer ?

    Do you run any particular Mastery (what type of a Tamer is your Template ?) to support the Triton's fighting most effectively ?

    Lastly, did you find your custom Triton to only be effective to solo Osiredon the Scalis Enforcer or also against other Bosses like for example Charybdis or any other ?

    Thanks !
     
  13. The Doctor

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    I use him in the group hunt on Saturday nights midnight on Atlantic. Resist are 80 phys 70 fire 80 cold 48 poison 87 energy. He is a Disco Feint AI pet. Hit points 800, stam 150, mana 462, str 700, dex 189, int 364, HPR 0, SR 10 and MR 30. 114 Disco at the moment. 121.4 wrestle and 110 everything else. I have taming III primer but is little use on this boss. I have run with and without pocket bard and it is still quite a bit less healing so I pop heals on everyone else there without having to focus on pet, healing gives looting rights etc, just not the non stop healing on pet it used to be so I can take my attention off and focus on surroundings. I run spellweaving III primer to help get the max focus before the event to help with Gift of Renewal which I have not had to cast much now. I have my bard on other account run 4x 120 skill peace mastery with a chiv feint ai trition with same resist spread that I never bother to heal and it lives, that toon has no magery. Going to make another bard on third account to run provo mastry 4 x120 with a bushido feint ai trition. Then I may attempt to "solo" with 3 accounts maybe. These are all paid accounts but you can do the same with an EJ pocket bard in tow not that I need one I just keep bard within 9 tiles of pets to further ease my wrist pains.
     
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  14. Calla Lily

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    Thank you!
     
  15. Theo_GL

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    As a side note - a pet I find very useful is the good old blue beetle. These start at one slot so lots of training options. The hardest part is getting it from 1 slot to 2 slots. Once you get the power up you can add resist and such so that it can tank a Crazed Mage and then training is fast.

    Now because it starts at one slot - it can be a nice powerful pet at 4 slots and you can hold it there. I have a 4 slot blue beetle on my thunter. Yes, it can be more powerful as a 5 slot but then I gotta walk when using it. I like to be able to ride an ethy while it fights. I'm able to use just mage healing on it and it can easily tank an ancient wyrm and greater dragon as a 4 slot.

    If you are looking for the baddest pet to take the toughest monsters - this isn't it - but this is a great option that is a solid fighter AND it has a backpack to carry all its loot! I thunt with hit and it carries back all the loot from the maps. I can do all levels of maps. Keep in mind it cannot SOLO the entire spawn so I pop the chest - run away. Invis. Lure monsters one by one and he knocks them off while I ride an ethy. Then he can handle the lockpicking monsters and then the monsters 1x1 from the chests. Fairly good tank with killing power.

    A 5 slot chiv mystic cu sidhe tho is a better overall fighter and killer and with the sleep spell he does better against mobs.
     
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    I’ve debated on doing this for my archer/Tamer. My thought was that I could use the beetle for RC and increasing the damage of my bow while also having extra damage AI.

    I could also use Double Strike with my Yumi which requires being mounted.

    Could you post some screenshots of your built 4 slot beetle?
     
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    Sure thing! 4 slot Blue Beetle. He's not perfect but he works for me. Obviously if I pop him to level 5 I can scroll up more stuff, add more hits etc but again I can easily solo an Ancient Wyrm. The Frost Dragons are a bit tough and require more healing but with 100 magery and some 1/4 casting and mana reduction armor - he can take them down while I heal and that's about the worst thing to pop out of a t-hunting chest.

    BlueBeetle4Slot.jpg
     
  18. Chrille

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    I would have skipped poison and added at least +5 tactics and some more hits
     
  19. Pawain

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    Since bugs have limited abilities you could use some mana regen points for HP if you want more. Especially if it is for T hunting or other short fights.

    They are missing the last Damage increase. But:

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    Put 150 Stamina on yours.
     
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  20. Calla Lily

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    Thanks for the info. I don’t think my tamer has a blue bug yet, but he sounds fun to play with.
     
  21. Calla Lily

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    I’ve started the process of training on my Cu, but where can I see the Training Menu? It doesn’t show up when I lore my pet. I use the Classic Client if that makes a difference.

    What does it mean when my Cu *looks confused* when he’s fighting?
     
  22. The Doctor

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    Your training menu is available once your pet is 100% trained each level. Once you started using the menu to add stats/abilities your pet will be one slot higher. *looks confused* is a side effect of a special move , tail swipe, that he is being hit by I think.
     
  23. Calla Lily

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    Okay, thank you :)
     
  24. Pawain

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    Make sure you feed it fruit.
     
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    Yes, he gets snippy if I don’t feed him
     
  26. Calla Lily

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    Is there a gif chart somewhere that shows the colors of the cu sidhe? I have two blue ones, but I'm not sure if they're ice blue, echo blue, or valorite blue, and I don't know what a "standard" cu looks like.
     
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    I have 2 fully trained beetles, fire and giant. One thing i noticed they are not as aggressive as cu's i have. Seems like their mana is always full and you need to "all kill" them all the time to urge to fight and cast specials. With cu i have no such problem, quite the opposite. Did anyone else notice that?
     
  30. Pawain

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    Beetles do not have Chivalry so they use less mana. Their abilities are inexpensive in Mana costs. Including FWW.

    A Bush or Ninja Hiryu also uses very little mana compared to other magics.
     
  31. Thargor

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    Its not just that, it almost looks like beetles are non-aggresive, while cu is looking for fight, maybe just my beetles are tree huggers or something
     
  32. Pawain

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    Mountable pets will sometimes just stand around. Feed them and they will act normal again.
    I have not noticed any of my Beetles being non aggressive.
     
  33. celticus

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    Maybe they are pacifists..They like to love more than kill kill kill..Or they could be hippies?